Intro – lame.
Gaga – good.
Muse – awesome.
Justin Bieber & Usher – loved (but don’t tell my daughter).
Dylan – love his body of work, but really?
Katy – OK but no meaning.
I guess my biggest problem is the lack of depth. On the other hand, I disagree with those that say Dylan and Jagger are better. They were better for our generation, but they’re not what kids are listening to now. For those naysayers: you’ve become your parents!
As far as the Justin Bieber haters go: he belonged on stage with Usher (Black Eyed Peas not so much), and he’s only 16.
Best and saddest part: Cee Lo’s performance and the fact that it didn’t win song of the year.
Last thought – don’t need to see Eminem to love him 
So to wrap it up – screw all the old farts that think music is dead…….Just embrace the good and ignore the rest. It’s always been that way. No generation is better.
Homey off to bed now
I was really put off by Lady Gaga. I’m not exactly sure why she puts me off? I think she tries too hard to be a stripperella. And Gaga’s dress this year really put me off. What the hell was that monstrosity of a grammy dress that she was wearing with those two oddly placed things on her tushy? I mean honestly. She’s what passes as an “appropriate” role model for young girls?
She isn’t an “appropriate” role model for young girls…and that’s why they love her. If my Dad had run into my room with a copy of “The Hurting’ when I was a kid screaming “OMG OMG OMG you have GOT to hear this!” I’d have completely tuned him out. Lady Gaga isn’t for us, and that’s a big part of her appeal.
I’ve never understood why so many people assume that if someone is famous, then they should be expected to be “role model” for kids. That has always struck me as ridiculous. People in the arts are entertainers, in one form or another – that’s it. How on earth can they be responsible for any of the choices one’s children makes? Parents should worry about how they themselves are an influence on their kids, or not, and not blame entertainers if their kids do something they don’t like. I know parents can’t control everything that their kids will see and hear, but if parents notice some sort of “bad influence” brewing in their child, it should be a sign to start an open dialogue and help them understand where it may come from.
It’s all buzz words that we see int he media all the time that a lot of people take seriously: role model, icon, star, celebrity, supermodel, fashionista…it’s hardly reality – not the average person’s reality anyway. You have to try and see through all that.
Agreed. Although I will add that I DID start smoking at 12 years old because Nick Rhodes made it look so damn cool. But, he was only 16 or so himself. So, they do affect young minds who do not understand that, in many cases, they are normal, messed up young minds themselves.
As far as Gaga, that’s not her at all. The glam influence is what struck a cord with audiences, so it’s what she’s become. Blame that on all of us.
Umm, didn’t watch@_@ was too sleepy to care. Got very detailed updates via singer Rob Thomas so got a lil’ bit of what it was about.
I love music & dancing, join in and bounce with me – me
Traci
All for freedom and for pleasure nothing ever lasts forever…
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Haven’t watched the Grammys for a long time now. If you ask me, it’s all the same year after year. The corporate acts always win. I don’t know about you but I still prefer the music of yesteryears when music was really music, unlike now with all the Lady Gagas and the Justin Beibers. Where are the credible musicians of our times – U2, Bob Dylan, The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, etc. ?
Funny you say that, if you had bothered to watch THIS YEAR, you would have seen that Bob Dylan and Mick Jaggar were performers this year…just saying
Loved Cee Lo’s preformance!
Congrats to Muse for winning, I took my daughter to see them last year, the are a phenomenal band to see live.
I don’t get Lady GaGa, that’s ok, shes not for me,
Congrats to Mainer Ray Lamontagne for winning best Contemp Folk Album of the Year. If you have the time give the album a listen.
I watched/read the whole thing via Twitter. (NPR Programming had my divided attention) However I really wanted to see Young Man Bieber. I’m looking forward to seeing the egg or whatever it was that Lady Gaga came out of…
Didn’t watch because everything on the radio, with few exceptions (like Pink’s new song or Muse, Ce Lo) sounds the same. As for Gaga being (or not) a role model, how about this… parent your own kids. It’s the parent’s job to teach their kids right/wrong, good/bad, appropriate or not. Leaving it up to Hollywood/TV/Music is just abdicating responsibility. Just sayin…
Hey peeps, it’s the music of the day!! That’s all. Remember, there’s a little bit of something for everyone these dayz. If people really knew my whole range of music, they may think I’m nutz. I have allowed my kids to listen to a huge range of music. Not once did I give the same speech of who should or shouldn’t listen to a certain kind of music.
All that did was to help them talk to us. In the end, it’s all the same with parents, even if we don’t want to admit it. Parents will try not to be like their parents. The joke is, we are like our parents in many ways when it comes to teaching, reviewing & etc from clothes to music. That’s our job as parents.
Do I miss a certain kind of music? Sure I do. However, there has been a wave in the music industry that has also seen a group of fans asking for more creative music as well. It happens all the time. We & the peers around our kids are the role models. It’s not up to us to say who is their role model. They will pick who they feel will relate to them the most. Just keep a watchful eye on your children. You may be surprised why they like a star or person. Talking with words of wisdom can go a long way as the years go by.
Wisdom Knowledge and Understanding
Traci
All for freedom and for pleasure nothing ever lasts forever…
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I can’t remember the last time I watched the Grammys or any other music award show for that matter. Most of the music I like doesn’t get much airplay. I am not a Gaga fan as she works my nerves. But hey, that’s just me. I remember my mother feeling the same way about Funkadelic. I loved them but she hated them. She would ask, “Why that grown man wearing diapers?” I told her she just didn’t “get” the music. Now I don’t get the music or at least some it. However, I guess it’s not for me to get.
The more things change…
Me either. I decided to watch last night to see who was nominated and to see who won. I don’t think it was a great show at all but I’m older and I like to complain about everything. LOL!! The only turning point for me was when Will and Jada Smith’s daughter Willow was performing with Justin Beiber, she just catapaulted out from underneath the stage, and I don’t have “Bieber Fever” either.
But you know what? I just like what I like and that’s more important to me than just what’s “in” and “hip.”
I will quote Abraham J Simpson from the Simpsons:
“I used to be it and then they changed what ‘it’ was. Now what I’m with isn’t ‘it’ and what’s ‘it’ seems weird and scary and it will happen to you!”
Edit: It was Jaden Smith who performed with Justin Bieber not Willow. That was the only good highlight for me.
I didn’t recognize him with the braids.
Suzanne, What I mean is that kids today, I’m not saying that this is true of your kids or Curt’s kids, but some kiids get into only one thing and become downright obsessive about it.
But it’s also up to the the people who are promoting this crap to think about their artist’s image and make sure that what they put forward is something that everybody.
The promoters shouldn’t be absolved from this either.
Kids today get obsessive? And Beatlemania was not obsessive? Rolling Stones? How about New Kids On The Block?
Every generation has there “obsessions.”
Love or Hate it, roll with the times
You’re right Melodie. I can complain all I want but that won’t change the fact that music trends have changed a lot.
Love the replies – agree with Suzanne that it’s our job to parent not any artist/actor etc. When I was a teenager I was listening to Black Sabbath and I turned out OK (I think). Let them do what they do. The most annoying and stupid tweet today was the following:
@curtsmith youre just an embarrassing old man getting ‘down with kids’ fuck em, grow old gracefully Fuck yankee pop trash, long live TFF
1. A little anger issue maybe 2. I believe I’m growing old quite gracefully, thank you for your concern 3. If he has kids I pity them 4. There are musicians younger than us that will end up being better than us, just pure fact. 5. Parents hated “The Hurting” because it was too dark 6. I’ve wasted too much time on an a-hole
Happy Valentine’s day everyone!!!
Ha Curt, I liked Black Sabbath and in turn I liked Ozzy O. My son used to love to dress like Ozzy. So, I started calling him Ozzy!! People would wonder how we as Christian parents would let our kids listen to that kind of music.
I said. it’s the parent’s job to at least know what their kids like & try not to freak out. Yes, he had the cloaks, the painted nails, the very long hair. As far as his moods & attitudes our kids kept them in check. We showed them respect & have many talks on various things. Some of the topics would bother other parents but not us. We really just roll with our family, the good, bad & all the in between. It’s not hard if you understand you’re the best example of how to deal with life. Trust me peeps, the kids do come back in their own way & time to say thank you for teaching me ____________ fill in the blank.
It takes courage to say you don’t get something or music. Your children are people too. We are also role models for their friends as well. We had to help a young girl last yr as she got pregnant. We spent many hours talking & helping her, so she could tell her parents. Never underestimate our influence. Of course our kids will have their own peeps they like & logo to go with it. Just chill & find out why they may get into certain artists. So what we may not like it. The more we act like is sooooo bad the more they might rebel. Which is why I stated in my above comment to talk to them.
[Clapping]
I like the way you handled yourself Papa S.
I’m a young woman and there are a lot of things that I just don’t get about this generation. If I could only say one thing it’s this. People assume that kids now aren’t smart and kids now are a lot smarter than we adults give them credit for.
I was into a lot of things that other people just “didn’t get” and I’m still into a lot of things that other people just “don’t get?” But I will say this.
Kids from my generation, our parents generation, and even our grandparent’s generation have a lot of things that their parents just “didn’t get!” It’s all a part of our oh so human nature that there are things that our parents just “don’t get” and our parents were into things that their parents just “don’t get.”
And Traci has a point about it being a parent’s job to nurture their kids and see what their specific likes and dislikes are.
When I was little my mother and father played Beatles records and lots of other interesting musicians of her time and even before my time. I never wanted to smoke a toke or kill myself just because Ozzy Osbourne’s music inspired me to pull that kind of s—.
I’ve just developed this attitude of I’m going to like whatever it is that appeals to me and who in the f—ing hell cares what other people think?
But I do think that corproate America or whatever should take at least some responsibility for what they’re putting out to the public because of the eyes that are watching the music videos and the ears that are listening to the CDs
Well, now I appear to be babbling so I’ll sign off of here by saying people are going to like what they like. I may not get it with the music that kids consider to be “it” but I was 11, 12 years old at one point in my life. OMG I sound just like my mother. LOL!
I listen to Morbid Angel and Slayer at the same time I listen to Old School jazz but I think my persona is pretty OK too, don’t you think?? LOL Some people just don’t realize how much they have NOT accomplished in their lives so they turn on to others and point out in their definition as “flaws.” I think this guy you dealt with is the perfect parent ever! You got better things to deal with Curt! As shawn says from Psych, “a dramatic pause? Really? Come on Curt, that’s beneath you man!” Have a blast Valentines Brah!
(Applauds)
Love the comment! Some people just can’t help themselves.
Brilliant!
Thanks Curt! I grew up (ok, got through teen years) listening to TFF and I think I turned out ok…
i didn’t watch and for the first time in years, i’m bummed that i didn’t. oh well, there’s always next year.
I still feel that if TFF performed the Grammy would definitely be the best for me this year
Just peeping in a sec. to mention that the Arcade Fire is not a corporate act. Good on them and good on their record label Merge Records for a job well done!
Curt, check out this guy
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I think the huge win by Arcade Fire proves that music is about to undergo and huge change. Like the 90s Grunge explosion that made household names of Nirvana, Pearl Jam and Stone Temple Pilots, I strongly believe that this is the Indie decade. So many once unknowns are taking front and center stage the way many 80s groups did. Finally the doors and minds back open and excepting this new brand of Indie and by their sound, our favorites like Tears For Fears style is making a comeback. Just check out The Temper Trap, Jonathan Boulet, Kings Of Convenience, The Superimposters, Gypsy & The Cat and many, many more. Finally the stagnant days of Rap that had artists thinking that they needed it in their songs to make hits are soon a thing of the past. Like Egypt and the rest the world’s cry for freedom, music’s liberation is knocking loud and clear!
I love you Curt…We all listened to questionable music as kids…Musicians are artists, not role models. I LOVE TFF
Some thoughts …
- The INDUSTRY is just a big marketing gig trying to brainwash listeners by playing the same crap over and over with incentives to radios stations & all others. (Lady GaGa & co)
- Very little room for creativity and artist driven content
- Dinosaur like approach to copyright and medias. Are these guys still burning CDs ?
- Grammys is made by the INDUSTRY for the INDUSTRY.
- Refreshing/encouraging to see independent labeled Arcade Fire to get a podium.
Parents just don’t understand! Ugh!
I personally thought that this year’s Grammys was the best yet!! I thought it was a great melding of the old and new. I do have to say though that I’m a little disgusted with the extreme backlash just because some lesser known (to some) took home two major awards. Just because you (the public) aren’t familiar with an artist or band does not mean they are “crap”…Grow up! Music is love! Let’s embrace it all!….especially TFF!
I listened to Twisted Sister when I was little and I never once thought about or even wanted to throw my father out my bedroom window. That’s just a ridiculous thing to do.
Even now I think that it’s ridiculous to put “PARENTAL ADVISORY EXPLICIT LYRICS” stickers on music that deemed by some to be “offensive” because some parents are too lazy and/or ignorant to listen to the music with their kids.
In fact I thought that the entire issue of explict lyrics in music and the Parent’s Music Resource Center was just some spoiled politian’s wife, Tipper Gore, getting her own way just because she was offended.
I still think that it’s up to the individuals and their parents to put caps on what’s appropriate for their kids. It shouldn’t have been allowed to get as far as it did.
Great to see you posting your thoughts and taking in what we have to say as well…
I thought the intro was okay, thought most of the talking heads on tv went a bit overboard with how “great” it was… What struck me as odd was that the tribute to Dolly Parton was sandwiched in as almost a side thought and yet was the better of the ‘tribute’ performances.
Very exciting to see the Avett Brothers or Mumford and Sons on stage.
Biggest thrill of the night was seeing the the upsets … I admit I had never heard of Esperanza… but I am a fan of Arcade Fire – so the fact that these two relative ‘unknowns’ were rewarded for their work is quite surprising in a very, very good way …. one feels that perhaps the academy is finally really listening to the music and giving credit where credit is due… not just going with the popular masses in their choices…
Here is to more award shows like this and to the music industry as a whole — needed shaking up like this!
My point – don’t tell me it’s getting worse when Esperanza Spalding wins best new artist and Arcade Fire win album of the year.
Or when Lady Gaga wins for Best Pop Vocal Performance. Ugghh!
Let’s just face it everyone. There are some things in life that anybody who’s aged 25 or older just wasn’t meant to get at all.
I guess the Muse and Arcade Fire are the closest thing to the kind of music I used to listen to growing up which includes your music of course, TFF, the Cure, The Cult, etc. And it is great that Arcade Fire came from an indie label.
You know, bands/ artists Are What they Are through every generation! I mean I grew up on TFF, Rush, black Sabbath, Zeppelin, blue oyster cult, buggie, and many more….in the end Its all about good music, strong hooks, composition, ohhhh, THAT makes music, and it. Lasts a lifetime …hopefully one day this generation will figure it out and stop re- mixing old classics! As far as children go, yeah, the responsibility lies with the parents for advice, guidance, and structure ….the fall isn’t On artists, they’re doing a job…as an entertainer, kids need TO learn/know the difference. But that’s Just my personal opinion and I’m mostly all there!!!
I was practically raised with listening to good music. Most people don’t know what good music is but that’s just because I get tired of hearing all of the brats that are “all fluff and no substance.”
I thought that song was sacred and should have never been touched at all. But it appears that I’ve started an unintentional discussion about who’s responsible for what kids are listening to now?
Hell I didn’t even like the Jonas Brothers’ cover of Hello Goodbye by the Beatles.
But you know what? I’m glad that there are musicians like Curt who have opened discussion forums like this in order to discuss about things of this nature. Otherwise these kinds of issues wouldn’t ever get discussed.
I have to admit I’m kind of fascinated by Lady Gaga. Her songs are catchy, and when it comes to her crazy outfits, I gawk against my better judgement, knowing that it’s exactly the reaction she wants. (It’s out of stunned surprise, rather than admiration). I loved Muse, Arcade Fire & Mumford’s performances. I don’t like Bieber’s music, but I have to admit he’s talented. I just hope that all this wor and fame at such a young age doesn’t make him an imbalanced young adult. I like to watch Mick perform, but not to listen to. And I had to turn the volume down when Dylan was on… amazing song writer, but I’ve never been able to tolerate his vocals (if you can call it that) and last night was horrible. I would’ve much rather have seen Florence perform with “The Machine” instead of Christina, but thought Martina and Jennifer (and Florence) handled Aretha’s tunes well. I only like Eminem when I’m already angry (and I wasn’t last night). Rihanna has some sexy moves which are ok for adults to watch, but I cringe at the thought of kids watching her, Katy, and Gaga and wanting to be like them. I appreciated Miranda Lambert’s lyrics and music, but didn’t like her twangy drawl. I’m not a country fan. I LOVED John Mayer, Norah Jones, and Keith Urban singing Dolly’s “Jolene” together. That was the best part, for me.
Being in Australia I didn’t see the grammys (must check to see if they are on one of our pay TV channels.
Speaking about parents – when I was in my teens, listening to Queen, Roxy Music, Pink Floyd etc, my mother would say ‘You won’t like this music when you are 21′ LOL What did she think would happen when I turned 21? Would I suddenly become middle-aged & like listening to Perry Como?
So 30++ years later I’m still listening to the above plus heaps more, so ROCK ON! iPod dock sits next to computer.
I wonder… If my mind suddenly became a Tabla Rasa would my musical preferences gravitate towards, TFF, Beatles, Beach Boys, Rush, Ozzy… I would like to think so. But who knows, I might end up devotee of Roaring 20′s music.
Interesting comments. I think a lot has changed between generations though. When it comes to skimming the music of the day, every changing tide has always brought out great music, today is no exception. Even pop trash like the Jonus Brothers and Katie Perry (who can’t sing a note) put out some truly wonderful songs..
What has changed is that now it is ONLY songs. It used to be you bought an LP, then a CD, and discovered gems that were never meant to be hits. You had to actually, because you bought the whole CD and why not listen? Now, I never buy more than a song at a time, and that is too bad. So, not sure that is progress really and means that this and future generations of music will never be quite as deep.
Otherwise, I agree, every new tide brings new songs and I LOVE that my little daughters walk around singing Katy Perry (the Elmo girl) and Lady Gaga, and pay as much attention to the lyrics as we did listening to Louie, Louie..
Peace
I didn’t watch but got all the play by play on the tweets. I just cried my eyes out because my son should be winning a Grammy but no one will ever give him a record deal or recognize his talent!
This is what Kurt Cobain from Nirvana was talking about when he said that “there was no generation gap anymore because the parents and the kids like the same music” but now there’s such a huge generation gap that nobody can really tell what’s hip right now and what isn’t hip.
I used to rely on Top 40 radio and Much Music to determine what it is that I should and shouldn’t listen to. And I can’t even do that anymore because all they’re playing right now on Top 40 Radio is stuff that I think is horrid. And Much Music well they don’t even play “music” videos anymore.
Interesting comments everyone. Here are my thoughts…I was put off a bit by the list of nominees as I really kind of hated alot of the year’s big songs/performers (Katy Perry for example). I know some of my disdain is due to being in my 40s and pop music not being catered to me anymore. But I don’t think my disdain can be solely chalked up to that. Sometimes what’s popular can just really suck and I think this year was a good example of that. But I could be wrong…
I was really pleased to see some of my faves (Arcade Fire, Muse) win. That was unexpected. Would’ve liked to see Adam Lambert win in his category but alas…
Re: Gaga…I’ve come to accept that she is Madonna’s successor (as much as Madonna can have a successor). I really never thought there would be one and my first exposure to Gaga only left me with the impression of “she’s another wannabe”. Because of that first impression, I didn’t take her seriously or actually listen to her.
What made me appreciate and develop some respect for her? Greyson Chance’s school performance of “Paparazzi”. Then I actually listened to her and realized she is actually pretty damn good at what she does.
Also, think it’s lame when the big performers are Jagger and Dylan (as much as I love them). Grammy always seems to get around to appreciating artists long after their heyday and it just feels kind of tired and lame. I may enjoy seeing them but, in truth, they are not what is “happening” in music today. Wouldn’t it make sense to only have the nominees perform?
Anyway, my two cents…
And as for Bieber? Kinda looks like a girl to me.
(I had to say it. Making that commercial made me love that kid!)
Don’t let Papa S’s kids hear you say that. Because as far as they’re concerned they hold Justin in the highest regard.
read on fb and twitter. like my comment on fb, music being a universal language has served its purpose, to unite each and everyone of us, regardless of race, religion or status. and, though i belong to the generation that embraced the 70′s and 80′s music, i also loved the 90′s and present, and able to relate with my nieces and nephews. its all about “love for music” per se… and i hear you Curt! that a-hole wanted to be noticed… people and KOOKS love you and your music, you get all good praises. so he did the reverse to get your attention. oh well,,, some people will go to the extremes! Congratulations to MUSE!
I read a book a few years back called The Indie Band Survival Guide which made the most sense to me about the current music scene than anything else had and since, has.
Basically in the past the audience’s choices for music were limited to a select few TV channels, radio stations, and stores. Now it’s unlimited thanks to the internet.
The book had some interesting insight about the pre-Net and post-Net era. I quote:
“In the pre-Net era, limited resources meant limited access for audiences. It meant few channels of distribution, with control concentrated among few players. These players decided what music would be distributed and where. It was a world of one-way communication–of broadcasting.
In the post-Net era, barriers between artists and their audiences have fallen away. Post-Net audiences are fickle, and they expect to get most of their information and entertainment for free. Trends come and go quickly in this world. It’s easy for something to “go viral” because people spread the music they enjoy to people they know. In the Internet world, this can mean millions of people taking an interest in a short time.”
In short, it is now up to you as the listener to decide what you really like and want to hear and not what Top 40 dictates what you should be listening to.
There is no Top 40 anymore and no Billboard 100. I mean, technically they’re still around but, they really mean nothing to the public anymore–it is the major labels clutching at every last straw to stay alive.
So, go out there and find music YOU want to hear – do some introspective evaluations and find what YOU really enjoy about music. The resources are out there now so go crazy! The truth is that you now have to actually think about what entertains you. It seems like work but, I think people will come out the other side having found music that makes them much more satisfied.
Search engines like google are amazingly addicting….
Just my 2 cents.
And your $0.02 are very well spent. I know that music isn’t the same as it was when I was a kid.
I found Curt’s site on the Google search engine quite by accident about oh it will be four years ago this December.
My mom says that I have eclectic taste in music. She’s right though because I don’t listen to anything that goes beyond 2008 because it’s not my thing. My friend listens to Lady Gaga but at the same time she’s just not my thing.
I know that I have found my musical taste and what happens to me when I express what it is that I like? It gets thrown back at me and I hear lines like “nobody listens to that!”
I must say that I’m not really into “musical trends” like everyone else is but then again I’m not young anymore. And I don’t care if there are specific trends that kids are into because the music that kids are into now just isn’t that great at all. But you know what my grandmother always said: Everyone has their druthers, and I say that opinions are like assholes….. Everyone has one.
Quite the dialogue this has created! For me the Grammys just don’t mean what it use to when I was younger. A Grammy doesn’t mean you’re a necessarily good artist or successful in some meaning of the word. I admit, when I was a young impressionable and nieve youth….I might have listened to the Backstreet Boys.
There I said it.
THANKFULLY, my guitar teacher back in the day introduced my to Metallica and the rest is history. My parents listened to some good classic rock, hard rock, and some jazz and folk so on that aspect…sure I’m like my parents. But it’s hard to deny the Led Zeppelin, Neil Young, Heart, The Beatles, Genesis, Fleetwood Mac, The Police, and Tears For Fears (to name a few) they were listening to is LEGIT music, and pretty damn good. Hell my mom even listens to Korn after I got her hooked onto Metallica. Every generation might have their Ricky Nelson or Justin Bieber…but with that said, it’s much easier for sub-par music and artists to release said music and listeners have slowly become complacent with the quality and mindset. But hey, you can’t kill good music that’s always around so…keep rockin Curt!
You’re right Lucy. Every generation might have a Ricky Nelson or a Justin Bieber. Like that Mike and the Mechanics song says in their song The Living Years “Every generation blames the one before” and I think that’s true.
I think that even Curt’s kids would agree that it’s a different generation than it was before and that trends are changing from since when we were kids. It just means that they as kids have more ways of accessing Justin Beiber’s music or any other music that they like just by going on the internet and listening to it, That’s what I mean when I say that kids today are a lot smarter than we adults give them credit for.
First let me say two things. Curt, love your work. Second, what I have to say may already have been said and even said better. I recently read the open letter by Steve Stoute regarding the Grammy Awards (which I might add I have not watched in earnest for many years now).
Despite the overwhelming urge/trend/need/ lust for money or whatever you may want to call it, the Grammy Awards should be about talent and that is it. There are artists out there who sad to say are not very gifted. Despite that, their music sells. Does this mean they deserve an award? Well if the basis for a Grammy is sales or popularity then I suppose so. Something about that however is ALL WRONG for me. If you want to give out awards for popularity and sales then have another award show and call is something other than The Grammy Awards. They have little to no validity for me anymore. I am not going to run out and by a CD because everyone else has it. My musical tastes are a little more discerning than that.